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XYダメタマゴ:非法改造外的另一解釋

作者:arccosine│2013-11-06 20:40:28│巴幣:96│人氣:1828
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應該有不少玩家都看到了這個驚悚的消息了??

XY出現的具傳染力的ダメタマゴ(英文是bad egg,以下將用壞蛋來稱呼),

很多網站都推測是因為非法破解遊戲的關係,

在這個網站中有詳細的過程,下面單純轉貼

Players of Pokémon X and Y are in a panic this weekend.  Rumors have been going around that those who are using Pokémon Wonder Trade may become victims of a new hack which creates “bad eggs” in the recipient’s game.

If you are new to Pokémon and X and Y, Wonder Trade is a new feature found in these games which allows you to trade Pokémon with other random players.  There is absolutely no guarantee what you will receive back from the other player and you don’t know what you are getting until the trade is in progress.  Many players find it fun for this reason since it allows them to expand their Pokédex with many new and exciting Pokémon.  Unfortunately, many may now shy away from making Wonder Trades because they may get a nasty surprise at the end: bad eggs.

According to a post made on Bulbagarden, a popular Pokémon fansite, when people try to trade hacked Pokémon, they appear as bad eggs in the recipient’s game.  These bad eggs cannot be released or traded away; they will keep multiplying until all of your boxes are filled.  But, it gets worse.  They will also delete your existing Pokémon and replace them with bad eggs.  “Trade at your own risk,” warns the post.

The problem may be due to a new pokémon editing tool which was just released to the public by a hacker who goes by the name codemonkey85 on a site called GBAtemp.  It appears that the pokémon created by this tool may be causing the bad eggs to be created whenever someone trades one of them in Pokémon Wonder Trade.  Whether the creator of the tool did this by accident or with malicious intent is uncertain, but it appears that it was probably unintentional.  At the time of the publication of this article, the problems with Wonder Trade were not being discussed on the GBATemp forum or linked to the tool.  However, the timing does seem suspicious.  The tool was just released on October 30th.

Some feel that this problem may be a result of the fact that documentation is now online telling people just what to do to edit a pokémon’s attributes.  It was only a matter of time, they say, before people would begin to hack the X and Y games.  Now someone has released a tool for editing pokémon and it seems to have already lead to problems.

Hacking Pokémon X and Y seem to be quite a popular trend.  Just recently a hacker uncovered several pokémon hidden inside the game, include mega evolutions of Latios and Latias and some legendaries.  These pokémon were intended to be released to the public in special events until the hacker exposed them first.  While some players were excited about seeing the new pokémon, others were disappointed that they had been revealed prematurely.

The official Pokémon X and Y site does not appear to have many any announcements yet about the new bad egg hack found in Wonder Trade.



咱比較有興趣的是

http://www.pretendo.co/wonder-trade-pokemon-x-y-hacked-badly-use/
這個網站中的某篇回覆,

下面稍微作了整理&翻譯:

1. 壞蛋從發售開始就存在了,並非非法解析所產生的問題

2. 壞蛋的出現是因為各個遊戲卡匣中錯誤的checksum

所謂checksum,簡單來說就是檢查碼,

是一種檢查檔案是否完整正確的數值。

假設時間上較早的是checksum1,較晚的是checksum2,

在程式中,當checksum1=checksum2時,

資料就完整無受損,也就是大部分的情況;

然而當checksum1!=checksum2的時候,

資料就會出現錯誤。

3. 如果回覆者的猜測沒錯的話,

奇蹟交換應該是在交換開始時使用checksum1,

交換完成時使用checksum2,

大部分的狀況下,程式運作正確,checksum1=checksum2,

奇蹟交換不會出現任何問題;

但是現在有不明的錯誤發生,

導致了checksum1!=checksum2的狀況發生,

而這個錯誤就造成了壞蛋的出現。

3. 壞蛋並不是一顆蛋,而是遊戲產生的錯誤訊息,

一個代表資料毀損的圖像。

4. 因為某些奇怪的原因,

資料的毀損部分能夠傳染並破壞正常的檔案--也就是其他的PM

回覆者猜測這個"傳染"是肇因於壞蛋覆蓋了其他存在的PM的checksum

5. 毀損的checksum=毀損的記錄,被壞蛋蓋掉的PM是拿不回來的


大概是以上這樣,供大家參考參考囉~


不過因為咱的程式設計能力超初階,

所以相關術語的部分如果有出錯,歡迎直接指正<(_ _)>


不論壞蛋出現的原因和非法改造or解析有沒有關,

咱只想說句

守規矩好好玩個遊戲有那麼困難嘛ˊ_>ˋ


最後附上原回覆文
It wasn’t because of hackers. People have only just started to decrypt the save files, and they can’t actually send modified save data to the cartridge yet.

People are just assuming this was because of hackers.

The bad eggs have been happening since launch. There is NO possible way people were hacking the game at the worldwide launch. Proof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjsySmLeBS0

It’s because of bad checksums in the individual Pokemon files.

(Quoted from olcon of GameFAQs)
[Pokemon data integrity is is achieved through the use of checksums. In barebones layman's terms, a checksum is sort of like a total representation of the integrity of a piece of data. If a checksum value for a piece of data matches a previously computed checksum value for the same piece of data, the data is uncorrupted.

So if checksum 1 = checksum 2, the data is safe. This is what normally happens.

If checksum 1 != checksum 2... bad things start to happen.

if I'm understanding this situation correctly, wonder trade probably does checksum 1 when the trade starts and checksum 2 when it ends. Normally everything lines up and is fine, but something's going wrong, and the checksums aren't lining up

The result is the abomination we label the bad egg

The bad egg is NOT a Pokemon egg - it is the game's error message, an icon that represents corrupted data. This is why it can come through wonder trade unlike actual eggs.

On top of it, for some odd reason, the corrupted data can spread and corrupt normal data - in this case, your Pokemon. The only way I can imagine this, is somehow the bad egg is overwriting the existing checksums for the boxed Pokemon

I'm being completely serious when I say to quarantine the entire box, guys. This isn't a joke, this is hard work potentially down the drain forever, because corrupted checksums = corrupted saves.

You don't get those Pokemon back.]


最後的最後,還是要感謝各位願意點進來,把這篇文章讀完><
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但丁的繼承人
好在我不怎麼搞奇蹟交換ˊ<_ˋ

不過解說精闢啊!!不給GP對不起自己!!

11-06 20:52

arccosine
是原回覆者的解說精闢,不是咱哪(遠目)
咱只是翻譯而已XD

還好咱連碰都沒碰,這個奇蹟交換,
咱真的不敢想像,
不得不把這個咱洗超久的ID給砍掉的情景(抖抖抖)11-06 20:58
此風不可長
整理翻譯辛苦了,但願老任那邊有辦法囉...
要不之後就只能用Y玩奇蹟交換了...X現在有太多重要東西 ^p^...

11-06 20:59

arccosine
兩片遊戲正解(痛毆)

可是這個情報出來後,
有多少玩家還敢冒險玩奇蹟交換呢呵呵^3^

>X現在有太多重要東西
是那蝴蝶群嗎XDDD

不過現在也沒看到"和有壞蛋的遊戲進行連線"會發生什麼事的消息,
倒是有看到"身上帶的火隼一夜之間變成蛋"的情報(日方)...
這段時間果然還是得小心為妙...(遠目)

假設真正的原因是這邊翻譯的那樣的話,
就算有修正檔大概也沒用了,
因為檔案一旦被"覆蓋"過去,不是沒方法,但是很難救得回來
(由咱老爸身為電腦老師救過無數檔案的經驗來看)

最後感謝風爺GP肯定><11-06 21:09
MoncatSf
之前常在玩奇蹟交換~ 因為嘛~真的很有趣呀~
不過是不斷重複著接收、再換走的過程
直到換到想要的~才移箱
好險沒碰到惡意玩家呢 =w=~

那是破關前玩的遊戲、破關後...
夢特御三家、百變怪、伊布、乘龍...要多少有多少欸
就對奇蹟交換沒啥興趣了...
目前...3DS安分封存中~

11-07 00:15

arccosine
Mt大居然封機了!?
咱現在才到第三道館耶<-龜速
但是這兩個禮拜期中考,
沒辦法玩哪啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!!!(淚咬手帕)

老任目前都還沒有任何的說明的樣子,
也不清楚發生壞蛋的原因是改造還是內部的bug,
不過咱剛剛有問過咱學電腦的老爸,
咱老爸是覺得這種狀況下想救回被吃掉的PM=檔案,
幾乎是不可能的...(默哀中)11-07 00:25
MoncatSf
嘛~要在3DS找我、到我小屋流言就行了~
通關後感嘛...
其他的孩子全部都是"最差"的...在遊戲中也隱約有這種感覺了
所以我才不想看個體、都是喬治害的!!!
所以即使檔案消失不會特別難過~
嘖、超討厭這樣的自己欸、怎麼說也是努力培育的孩子們
啊...不過令人意外的小莎(奈朵)個體質好高!!!
雖然唯一的V的是沒用的物攻、特攻也不高
不過個體總和有151以上呢~有愛有奇蹟!!!(好像哪裡不對)

11-07 00:38

arccosine
呀哈哈,
Mt大也要踏入廢人的領域了嗎XDDD

如果是咱現在這個記錄被感染,
不得不砍掉的話,
咱很有可能會因此放棄XY也說不定,
因為現在這個ID是咱洗超久才洗到的,
個人超級喜歡、超級滿意的ID啊啊啊啊啊啊啊!!!

不過也因為洗了個超滿意的ID,
所以就想說要好好經營這片,
結果一開始的御三家就在那邊挑個體挑老半天...(被拖走)
然後小火龍也是挑個體挑老半天...(再度被拖走)

但是一般人一週目都不會去注重個體啦,
畢竟沒效率而且之後也幾乎不會拿來對戰嘛(攤手)11-07 00:50
MoncatSf
嗯、注意到個體就是因為連線對戰(根本萬惡)
小莎真的超殺的!!!即使不MEGA進化~
只要不碰上適性不合的都沒問題呢~
之前也挑過超夢MEGA Y (神獸至少3V~)
要不是對方一直用回血招、小莎早就贏啦~(女王超威!!!而且還沒有MEGA)
欸、不過這孩子一輸後面就不用玩了 ="=~

沒有喔、我還沒能走上廢人一途
目前已收手啦~ 為了收心做了一點心態上的調整

11-07 01:04

arccosine
廢人是條不歸路哪...(遠目)11-07 01:08
信紙-Sin-
強大翻譯(膜拜)

11-07 01:13

arccosine
這哪有強大翻譯啦XD11-07 01:19
我愛馬力歐
說真的,老任還是早點出補釘補救比較好(茶)

11-07 01:14

arccosine
感謝馬力歐大GP肯定><

不過照目前的狀況來看,
已經毀損的記錄和消失的PM大概是沒救了(默哀)11-07 01:23
我愛馬力歐
>不過照目前的狀況來看,
>已經毀損的記錄和消失的PM大概是沒救了(默哀)

的確啦,畢竟影響到程式碼,這下真的沒救

11-07 01:31

arccosine
與其等老任的說明&修正檔釋出(還不知道救不救的回來),
現在的狀況搞不好直接重玩還比較有效率...(倒)11-07 01:40
我愛馬力歐
>現在的狀況搞不好直接重玩還比較有效率...(倒)
但萬翼有重要的東西,例如好不容易蒐集來的蝴蝶....

11-07 02:30

arccosine
嗯...如果是這樣的話,
原文裡面有提到,可以試著"隔離"整個箱子這樣...

另外有看到的解法是,
在發現壞蛋出現後,
"不要存檔",直接重開機,
壞蛋似乎有機會消失的樣子...

不過實際狀況咱就不太清楚了,
只能等勇者(?)來測試了??11-07 02:39
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